tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post115068462829809928..comments2023-11-03T11:37:04.473+00:00Comments on nothing new under the sun: Theodicy & eschatology VIbyron smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-69832431213668496732017-06-29T20:07:53.927+01:002017-06-29T20:07:53.927+01:00AmenAmentimuihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07720989625625507944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1150938200812169202006-06-22T02:03:00.000+01:002006-06-22T02:03:00.000+01:00Thanks Byron, thats really helpful.Thanks Byron, <BR/>thats really helpful.Meredithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05076364508884699137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1150880846036200242006-06-21T10:07:00.000+01:002006-06-21T10:07:00.000+01:00Meredith, thanks for your thoughts - for a 'non-th...Meredith, thanks for your thoughts - for a 'non-theologian' you have hit the nail on the button!<BR/><I>how Jesus' death and resurrection relate to the stuff to come</I><BR/>is exactly the issue. It is crucial that our future hope is made possible by that bit of the future that has already arrived: the resurrection of Christ, or to say almost the same thing in other words, the coming of the byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1150789653315409802006-06-20T08:47:00.000+01:002006-06-20T08:47:00.000+01:00Hi Byron,finally got around to reading these posts...Hi Byron,<BR/><BR/>finally got around to reading these posts on theodicy (that's a new word for me - thanks!) The thing that grabbed me was the Moltmann quote in Theodicy V: 'The Christ event cannot itself be understood as fulfilling all promises, so that after this event there remains only the sequel of its being unveiled for all to see.’ This seems to me a really strong way of saying that thereMeredithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05076364508884699137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1150760543242192112006-06-20T00:42:00.000+01:002006-06-20T00:42:00.000+01:00David, I'm not sure I've followed you - were you c...David, I'm not sure I've followed you - were you calling my approach existential? Not sure I'd call it that.<BR/><BR/><I>What of the perfecting work of the Spirit as a realisation of the anticipated solution in glory?</I><BR/><BR/>This is exactly what I was trying to include in this last post. The Spirit is the reason the resurrection future starts to affect us now. Our identity is hidden with byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1150725263811477502006-06-19T14:54:00.000+01:002006-06-19T14:54:00.000+01:00'Neighhhhh'(that is the sound of D's hobby horse a...'Neighhhhh'<BR/><BR/>(that is the sound of D's hobby horse alongside mine in the stable!)michael jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15379361601019023165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1150714722229335472006-06-19T11:58:00.000+01:002006-06-19T11:58:00.000+01:00A very nice ending to this theodicy odyssey (ok, I...A very nice ending to this theodicy odyssey (ok, I exaggerate. I've enjoyed the ride anyway). Your posts these past few weeks have given me much food for thought as I've been preparing sermons on the book of Daniel. All the way through, God discloses to his people the very hope to which you have been referring. I have now reached Daniel 12 which has to be the most overt reference in the OT to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1150711110701532852006-06-19T10:58:00.000+01:002006-06-19T10:58:00.000+01:00Ah everyone's got to get their hobby horse into th...Ah everyone's got to get their hobby horse into the stable...<BR/><BR/>Yes, of course it does have a place <I>somewhere</I> - I guess it is part of groaning and hoping: the promise of resurrection frees you to love the world by witnessing to its future even through one's own death. Any further thoughts?byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1150706718694471622006-06-19T09:45:00.000+01:002006-06-19T09:45:00.000+01:00where does martyrdom fit in? Is it not a response ...where does martyrdom fit in? Is it not a response to the problem of evil?michael jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15379361601019023165noreply@blogger.com