tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post115897225658580921..comments2023-11-03T11:37:04.473+00:00Comments on nothing new under the sun: Kierkegaard on wearing masksbyron smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-69534971885855929842012-06-11T19:38:53.960+01:002012-06-11T19:38:53.960+01:00There is a movie that dramatizes this quote - mask...There is a movie that dramatizes this quote - mask, midnight, slipping away, love and self-revelation, point by point, and will make you cheer for it: V for Vendetta. And it comes to the conclusion - I think this is not a spoiler - that self-revelation and unmasking are not one and the same thing. And further, that a man may smile and smile and yet not be a villain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1164801731726530022006-11-29T12:02:00.000+00:002006-11-29T12:02:00.000+00:00Thanks Charlie, very helpful!Thanks Charlie, very helpful!byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1164785125065057862006-11-29T07:25:00.000+00:002006-11-29T07:25:00.000+00:00Ooh, Kierkegaard quote! Makes me happy. I'm a litt...Ooh, Kierkegaard quote! Makes me happy. I'm a little late, but anyway:<BR/><BR/>Took a while to find. It's from Either/Or, part II, at beginning of the Balance between the Esthetic and the Ethical in the Development of the Personality. (Thanks Google Books!) It's spoken by Judge William to A.<BR/><BR/>There's an interesting point with regard to "persona" that you discussed. The bit that's been Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159330185823278772006-09-27T05:09:00.000+01:002006-09-27T05:09:00.000+01:00By the way, I saw Matchpoint too - very disturbing...By the way, I saw Matchpoint too - very disturbing. But I actually appreciated the take on it - think it showed only too clearly what a slippery slope an "affair" can be (it was like one bad decision following another for the entire movie).Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01860216271350147224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159329610164462712006-09-27T05:00:00.000+01:002006-09-27T05:00:00.000+01:00That's quite fascinating. Here's what good ole dic...That's quite fascinating. Here's what good ole dictionary.com had for me (so, yes, can appreciate the Greek's dilemma):<BR/>[Origin: 1175-1225; ME persone < L persōna role (in life, a play, or a tale) (LL: member of the Trinity), orig. actor's mask < Etruscan phersu (< Gk prósōpa face, mask) + -na a suffix] or [Middle English, from Old French persone, from Latin pers na, mask, role, person, Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01860216271350147224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159249795069628212006-09-26T06:49:00.000+01:002006-09-26T06:49:00.000+01:00And the Woody quote, as always, is spot on. :-)Her...And the Woody quote, as always, is spot on. :-)<BR/><BR/>Here's my favourite: "I am not afraid of death; I just don't want to be there when it happens."byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159249699760684812006-09-26T06:48:00.000+01:002006-09-26T06:48:00.000+01:00Alison, I assume the linking of person with mask i...Alison, I assume the linking of person with mask is found in the Latin, <I>persona</I>, which we still use of an actor playing a character, it is the 'mask' they wear on stage. This theatrical use is, I believe (Latin scholars correct me), the basic use of the term in Latin too.<BR/><BR/>Indeed, the terminology debate about 'person' has raged in trinitarian discussion since the early centuries, byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159245327967751642006-09-26T05:35:00.000+01:002006-09-26T05:35:00.000+01:00You're most welcome to the quote (I never knew tha...You're most welcome to the quote (I never knew that was the origin of the word "person") - I am enjoying yours. Since you're talking Woody Allen and engagement, have you seen this one (from Woody):<BR/><BR/>"To love is to suffer. To avoid suffering, one must not love. But then, one suffers from not loving. Therefore, to love is to suffer; not to love is to suffer; to suffer is to suffer. To be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159167220775300192006-09-25T07:53:00.000+01:002006-09-25T07:53:00.000+01:00Alison: Thanks for the quote.Nicole: my wife Jess ...Alison: Thanks for the quote.<BR/><BR/>Nicole: my wife Jess also found the movie pretty distressing. The main character was a typically lovable Woody kind of guy. Scary to think that the movie was Woody playing what-if: what if I hadn't run off the young beauty but had stayed with my wife?byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159166233648953292006-09-25T07:37:00.000+01:002006-09-25T07:37:00.000+01:00Just so happens that the quote for today is: It is...Just so happens that the quote for today is: <BR/>It is probably no mere historical accident that the word person, in its first meaning, is a mask. It is rather a recognition of the fact that everyone is always and everywhere, more or less consciously, playing a role.<BR/>-Robert Ezra Park, sociologist (1864-1944)Alihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01860216271350147224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159165348913012522006-09-25T07:22:00.000+01:002006-09-25T07:22:00.000+01:00woops. not quite sure what 'deperation' is. assu...woops. not quite sure what 'deperation' is. assume it to be one consonant short of total desperation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159165271249958422006-09-25T07:21:00.000+01:002006-09-25T07:21:00.000+01:00i didn't find the quote nearly as depressing as th...i didn't find the quote nearly as depressing as the movie. i was so depressed by <I>match point</I> that i cried; not entirely an unusual occurence during a movie, however mine were tears of deperation - i just couldn't stand it anymore and wanted to go home!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159108069009221842006-09-24T15:27:00.000+01:002006-09-24T15:27:00.000+01:00Or perhaps - the painfully delightful task and pri...Or perhaps - the painfully delightful task and privilege of vulnerability.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159108016730995932006-09-24T15:26:00.000+01:002006-09-24T15:26:00.000+01:00Jason - pretty sure it's from Either-Or, but not s...Jason - pretty sure it's from Either-Or, but not sure where... (I got it from a quote site that didn't give page refs) :-(<BR/><BR/>Rob: depressing? Perhaps. Or maybe it is liberating - to know that the midnight hour is coming means that masks are temporary measures. We live in the light of revealed faces, and can begin the painful task of vulnerability.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159102647716601292006-09-24T13:57:00.000+01:002006-09-24T13:57:00.000+01:00Great quote, Byron, but it's kind of depressing.Great quote, Byron, but it's kind of depressing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1159015371301166002006-09-23T13:42:00.000+01:002006-09-23T13:42:00.000+01:00Great quote Byron. It is from Either/Or? Do you kn...Great quote Byron. It is from Either/Or? Do you know the ref?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com