tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post116287643790177679..comments2023-11-03T11:37:04.473+00:00Comments on nothing new under the sun: Changing the wind: elections and social changebyron smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-53476329663983283332007-01-09T07:11:00.000+00:002007-01-09T07:11:00.000+00:00Pete - ten points! Well done. Almost in the lead n...Pete - ten <a href="http://nothing-new-under-the-sun.blogspot.com/2006/09/pics-and-points.html">points</a>! Well done. Almost in the lead now.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-9530681461436605282007-01-09T06:43:00.000+00:002007-01-09T06:43:00.000+00:00Is the location of the camera on Westminster Bridg...Is the location of the camera on Westminster Bridge?peter jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06660654539637341429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1163778364377506082006-11-17T15:46:00.000+00:002006-11-17T15:46:00.000+00:00The more I think about the views you present from ...The more I think about the views you present from O'Donovan and Wallis, the more I am intrigued. Right now I am less convinced than I was that the difference between reasons for limiting the importance of elections is as significant as you suggest, but mainly it makes me think about "how [leaders] interact with ... their constitutents".<BR/><BR/>The whole discussion seems to rest on the idea thatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1163651486637266542006-11-16T04:31:00.000+00:002006-11-16T04:31:00.000+00:00Christian - glad you made it to the end. It's a bi...Christian - glad you made it to the end. It's a big (and slightly repetitive) book.<BR/><BR/>And yes, whatever the rightness or otherwise of GF's cause, a beautiful building is still a good thing.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1163634769955762632006-11-15T23:52:00.000+00:002006-11-15T23:52:00.000+00:00Jonanthan - ten points for Westminster bridge. And...Jonanthan - ten <A HREF="http://nothing-new-under-the-sun.blogspot.com/2006/09/pics-and-points.html" REL="nofollow">points</A> for Westminster bridge. And you're right about Wright making a broader point. Though in the context of the lecture, this broader historical point is intended to criticise the narrow view that political involvement means voting once every few years.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1163613953218809202006-11-15T18:05:00.000+00:002006-11-15T18:05:00.000+00:00I was going to say Westminster Bridge, but then I ...I was going to say Westminster Bridge, but then I saw that the description from the Miner was good enough. I guess you probably were in the right part of the bridge to be in Westminster, rather than Lambeth, but they're both part of (Greater) London anyway.<BR/><BR/>There are some good points there about the role of elections in a "free society", but surely Wright's point is broader. The early Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1163571998991627992006-11-15T06:26:00.000+00:002006-11-15T06:26:00.000+00:00Miner - yes, I'll give you the points, though I ha...Miner - yes, I'll give you the <A HREF="http://nothing-new-under-the-sun.blogspot.com/2006/09/pics-and-points.html" REL="nofollow">points</A>, though I had in mind the name of the bridge on which I was standing. I'll offer another ten points for the first to get it right.<BR/><BR/>In Australia, we avoid the turnout issue by making voting compulsory, yet this probably reduces the average level of byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1163556120140529432006-11-15T02:02:00.000+00:002006-11-15T02:02:00.000+00:00This is the back of the parliament building along ...This is the back of the parliament building along the Thames. You're down at the end where Big Ben is, as opposed to the end where Westminster Cathedral sits.<BR/><BR/>Especially based on poor voter turnout, even worse voter education and a confusing electorate system to top it off... elections are definitely an exercise in blind optimism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1163551008397977102006-11-15T00:36:00.000+00:002006-11-15T00:36:00.000+00:00Speaking of politics, Australians might be interes...Speaking of politics, Australians might be interested in <A HREF="http://www.lawfoundation.net.au/ljf/app/&id=FC34E2F5AC8773B5CA257218001DCFAC" REL="nofollow">this recent speech</A> by former PM Malcolm Fraser summarising some key parts of Australian political history since WWII.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1163545485488497192006-11-14T23:04:00.000+00:002006-11-14T23:04:00.000+00:00Kyle - no probs.Christian - I think of Jesus in Jo...Kyle - no probs.<BR/><BR/>Christian - I think of Jesus in John 19.11, Peter in Acts 4, Stephen in Acts 7, Paul in Acts 23-28. However, while these points of crisis and open confrontation were important, you're right that they might not have been part of the everyday life of 'ordinary' Christians. Yet this possibility remained a live one (e.g. 1 Peter 3.14-15 (I take it that given the context of byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1163508252586946892006-11-14T12:44:00.000+00:002006-11-14T12:44:00.000+00:00Neat post, Byron. Thanks for the link and your kin...Neat post, Byron. <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link and your kind compliment. :0)Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14641068117855718120noreply@blogger.com