tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post1217522072088411876..comments2023-11-03T11:37:04.473+00:00Comments on nothing new under the sun: Gittins on Australia's hung parliamentbyron smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-67551132288480134002010-08-29T22:55:09.187+01:002010-08-29T22:55:09.187+01:00The Age: "The Climate Institute released an e...<a href="http://www.theage.com.au/federal-election/new-week-and-no-end-in-sight-20100829-13xmh.html?from=smh_ft" rel="nofollow">The Age</a>: "The Climate Institute released an exit poll finding that almost a third of Green voters in key marginal seats said they would have voted ALP if it had not delayed the introduction of an emissions trading scheme. This could have cost the ALP two seats, byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-26907298952851840182010-08-28T20:20:40.068+01:002010-08-28T20:20:40.068+01:00David - I have heard you. I disagree at each poin...David - I have heard you. I disagree at each point.<br /><br />1) I have never minimised uncertainty, quite the opposite. It is because of the uncertainties that I think we need to act now as things could just as well turn out to be considerably worse than the mainstream estimates. 2) Climate change is already destructive and is highly likely to grow considerably more so and you are ignoring thebyron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-31090205411898412472010-08-28T03:36:57.110+01:002010-08-28T03:36:57.110+01:00Hi Byron,
You are correct in that I'm more in...Hi Byron,<br /><br />You are correct in that I'm more interested in the economic, technological and scientific issues.<br /><br />I'm willing to concede, and not grudgingly so, that the planet has been on a warming cycle with CO2 likely being a contributing factor.<br /><br />I think we part company at three main points.<br /><br />1. I don't think you allow sufficiently for the David Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12915892358086536345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-50482857213310044722010-08-27T18:32:35.972+01:002010-08-27T18:32:35.972+01:00SMH: Climate and hung parliament.SMH: <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/new-political-scene-may-deliver-climate-action-20100825-13rr2.html" rel="nofollow">Climate and hung parliament</a>.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1908003603293908672010-08-27T10:10:52.704+01:002010-08-27T10:10:52.704+01:00David - I was quite clear: we pay attention to lon...David - I was quite clear: <i>we pay attention to long term trends</i>. NASA called the first half of this year <a href="http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2010july/" rel="nofollow">what global warming looks like</a>. These are not isolated events, but a clear pattern. I have indeed mentioned only a selection, but a representative selection (show me your evidence for claiming otherwise). In fact, byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-10721292117798906192010-08-27T07:07:23.650+01:002010-08-27T07:07:23.650+01:00Hi Byron,
Just reread your last paragraph.
It st...Hi Byron,<br /><br />Just reread your last paragraph.<br /><br />It starts well.<br /><br /><i>You're right. We shouldn't make too much of current weather.</i><br /><br />But then you start going on about current weather, claimimg 2010 to date being hottest ever. <br /><br />What will you say if 2010 is not as hot as 1998 at the end of the calendar year?<br /><br />As for the rest of yourDavid Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12915892358086536345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-84891093310029181392010-08-26T12:33:09.561+01:002010-08-26T12:33:09.561+01:00I think I'm getting under your skin Byron!
I&...I think I'm getting under your skin Byron!<br /><br />I'll leave a considered reply til tomorrow or day after.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />DavidDavid Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12915892358086536345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-72615519916354152192010-08-26T11:04:31.549+01:002010-08-26T11:04:31.549+01:00I'm not defending everything the independents ...I'm not defending everything the independents are doing, but the first article was silly and used a number of false dichotomies. Example: if the independents threaten a new poll in the absence of a deal, then they are not interested in stable government. They might be so interested in stable government that they agree with the author of the article that this might only be achieved through a byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-66964464037923855622010-08-26T09:19:35.504+01:002010-08-26T09:19:35.504+01:00Two more interesting articles, both of which in my...Two more interesting articles, both of which in my opinion are on the money:<br /><br />Dennis Shanahan from <i>The Australian</i>, <a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/commentary/forget-three-amigos-lets-go-back-to-polls/story-e6frgd0x-1225910141083" rel="nofollow"><i>Forget three amigos, let's go back to polls</i></a> <br /><br />and Andrew Shearer from "<i>The David Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12915892358086536345noreply@blogger.com