tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post1825625812390796280..comments2023-11-03T11:37:04.473+00:00Comments on nothing new under the sun: A crash in slow motion (continued)byron smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-80097776978434367082010-10-16T02:06:08.691+01:002010-10-16T02:06:08.691+01:00Capitalism vs climate: "in a choice between a...<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/15/climate-change-economic-growth-capitalism" rel="nofollow">Capitalism vs climate</a>: "in a choice between addressing the stresses of the planet and addressing the stresses of corporate capitalism, President Obama chooses the latter, while undermining the former."byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-76513424082368810762010-08-11T08:19:42.361+01:002010-08-11T08:19:42.361+01:00Most of the most qualified minds think that, on th...<i>Most of the most qualified minds think that, on the balance of evidence, there is a larger chance that the present day economic costs of specific actions to limit climate change may pale in comparison to catastrophic outcomes. Compare "one to two tenths of a percentage point per annum from the growth in Australian living standards over the next four decades" with "It is possibleDavid Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12915892358086536345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-80685134781961675582010-08-08T23:06:28.305+01:002010-08-08T23:06:28.305+01:00Ross Garnaut recently gave a speech that is worth ...Ross Garnaut recently gave a speech that is worth <a href="http://media.crikey.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Hamer-Oration-Ross-Garnaut-050810.pdf" rel="nofollow">reading in full</a>, though here is a relevant piece:<br /><br />"Climate change mitigation will be cheaper than climate change. It was a conclusion of the Garnaut Climate Change Review that I presented to Prime Minister Rudd Garnaut thinks we might fall off a cliffhttp://media.crikey.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Hamer-Oration-Ross-Garnaut-050810.pdfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-81257722888192656782010-08-08T18:58:24.989+01:002010-08-08T18:58:24.989+01:00Did I say that it was an irrational obsession? No....Did I say that it was an irrational obsession? No. Crashing into a cliff face will hurt. It is to be avoided if possible. But it is not nearly as bad as driving off the edge of a cliff.<br /><br />I fully realise that a declining econoy is an abstraction that refers to a whole complex of human relationships and interactions (far more than just banks and governments), many of which are made more byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-48713870462019848782010-08-03T07:18:51.294+01:002010-08-03T07:18:51.294+01:00Hi Byron,
I’m not inclined to buy into your analo...Hi Byron,<br /><br />I’m not inclined to buy into your analogy, but be that as it may. I need to comment on this statement.<br /><br /><i>It seems to me that worrying purely about the economic costs of ecologically responsible action is a little like obsessing over not crashing into the cliff face</i><br /><br />I’m with you if we think of economic costs as some sort of abstract concept that justDavid Palmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12915892358086536345noreply@blogger.com