tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post2161625606165163556..comments2023-11-03T11:37:04.473+00:00Comments on nothing new under the sun: More doom and gloombyron smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-61079755146843509592012-08-08T18:08:42.640+01:002012-08-08T18:08:42.640+01:00Amazon: Continuing to slow down our suicide and a ...Amazon: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/jun/07/amazon-deforestation-illegal-logging-brazil" rel="nofollow">Continuing to slow down our suicide</a> and a <a href="http://news.mongabay.com/2012/0802-brazil-deter-2012.html" rel="nofollow">further update</a> from Mongabay in early Augustbyron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-11871257039888872712011-06-01T00:21:07.423+01:002011-06-01T00:21:07.423+01:00BBC: The rate at which we are cutting our throat h...BBC: The rate at which we are cutting our throat has jumped <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13449792" rel="nofollow">sixfold</a>.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-40889818233124467912010-09-21T16:10:13.699+01:002010-09-21T16:10:13.699+01:00Correction: it is a field genebank, not a seedbank...Correction: it is a field genebank, not a seedbank. If it were a seedbank, it would be easy to move and there would be little or no issue.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-8291324256125101102010-09-21T16:08:18.893+01:002010-09-21T16:08:18.893+01:00Guardian: Russian seed bank update.Guardian: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/sep/20/campaign-russia-pavlovsk-seed-bank" rel="nofollow">Russian seed bank</a> update.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-69293362304219264572010-08-25T16:32:46.067+01:002010-08-25T16:32:46.067+01:00Sorry for late reply. I'm with you on most of ...Sorry for late reply. I'm with you on most of this, though at the final line, I'm not. There is indeed a difference between deliberately ordering the deaths of thousands and fashioning policies aimed at prosperity that actually lead to the deaths of thousands. The latter is far from blameless (especially when the connections are becoming better established every year), but there is still byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-90408673304451178752010-08-14T04:26:30.267+01:002010-08-14T04:26:30.267+01:00Firstly, my hunch is that I am one of the people d...Firstly, my hunch is that I am one of the people deserving of shame, humiliation, even punishment. I'm as tangled up in overconsumption as the next westerner, and it is hardly fair to point the finger at oil executives who provide the cheap energy I demand.<br />The detached agency of my consumption means I'm pretty ignorant of the effects it has. But if I did some searching it wouldn'Mike Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13382354162198484322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-67615188544923708542010-08-13T15:33:10.090+01:002010-08-13T15:33:10.090+01:00Ah, now these are indeed good questions. Though yo...Ah, now these are indeed good questions. Though you have raised two points that ought to be addressed separately. First, what place might the pursuit of provisional human justice by political authorities in punishing the ecological evildoers and second, how can the church be a sign and foretaste of the kingdom through judging for ourselves via church discipline?<br /><br />Both quite complex byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-28120860565172224692010-08-13T14:58:42.773+01:002010-08-13T14:58:42.773+01:00or shareholders?or shareholders?Mike Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13382354162198484322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-6238157767144405542010-08-13T14:54:51.689+01:002010-08-13T14:54:51.689+01:00or to put it another way, should we refuse communi...or to put it another way, should we refuse communion to the CEOs of oil companies?Mike Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13382354162198484322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-67695763376267025572010-08-13T14:30:54.029+01:002010-08-13T14:30:54.029+01:00Sure. But you are up for a limited role for human ...Sure. But you are up for a limited role for human justice aren't you? <br />Maybe the killing part is only for God, but the honour, punishment, maybe even sabottage part? We live in a broken system that honours people perpetuating the brokenness, why should we give respect to bankers? Miners, people who work for BP?<br />And if one system of organising things irreversibly sabotages many otherMike Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13382354162198484322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-19404596082070215652010-08-13T14:04:24.460+01:002010-08-13T14:04:24.460+01:00That would be God's job and in his time. Meanw...That would be <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=142470412" rel="nofollow">God's job</a> and in his time. Meanwhile, we watch and pray, love and serve, suffer and die in hope.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-31671544119172679782010-08-13T12:49:25.858+01:002010-08-13T12:49:25.858+01:00when does it become time to shame, humiliate, puni...when does it become time to shame, humiliate, punish, sabotage, even kill those who are commited to killing our world for the sake of financial gain?Mike Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13382354162198484322noreply@blogger.com