tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post4497814617737955406..comments2023-11-03T11:37:04.473+00:00Comments on nothing new under the sun: Two horizons of hope: justice vs economic growth IIIbyron smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-84558679014951164672015-08-03T04:07:39.338+01:002015-08-03T04:07:39.338+01:00AJ: $333k in settlements for 6 pepper-sprayed Occu...AJ: <a href="http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/7/6/333k-in-settlements-for-6-pepper-sprayed-occupy-protesters.html" rel="nofollow">$333k in settlements for 6 pepper-sprayed Occupy protesters</a>.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-27002009619674082882012-11-13T15:39:01.260+00:002012-11-13T15:39:01.260+00:00Guardian: Occupy's next plan - rolling debt ju...Guardian: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/12/occupy-plan-cancel-consumer-debt" rel="nofollow">Occupy's next plan - rolling debt jubilee</a>. Nice idea.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-68964865822688126472012-11-06T15:05:39.741+00:002012-11-06T15:05:39.741+00:00Guardian: Kalle Lasn: the many who inspired the Oc...Guardian: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/05/kalle-lasn-man-inspired-occupy" rel="nofollow">Kalle Lasn: the many who inspired the Occupy movement</a>. Review of a new book on heterodox economics.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-50868910779050041442012-03-17T04:52:20.141+00:002012-03-17T04:52:20.141+00:00Two reflections (one and two) on hostile infiltrat...Two reflections (<a href="http://october2011.org/blogs/kevin-zeese/part-i-infiltration-disrupt-divide-and-mis-direct-are-widespread-occupy" rel="nofollow">one</a> and <a href="http://october2011.org/blogs/kevin-zeese/part-ii-infiltration-political-movements-norm-not-exception-united-states" rel="nofollow">two</a>) on hostile infiltration of Occupy movements.<br /><br />It is very difficult to byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-47406414934475723162012-02-13T20:04:12.115+00:002012-02-13T20:04:12.115+00:00Occupy London: How Hayek helps us to find capitali...Occupy London: <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/89d242b0-4687-11e1-89a8-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1mIHpkwUf" rel="nofollow">How Hayek helps us to find capitalism's flaws</a>. A thoughtful piece from Occupy London identifying three areas for focus in the UK: tax avoidance, housing/homelessness; income inequality.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-85261115846497307752012-02-13T20:00:21.232+00:002012-02-13T20:00:21.232+00:00Guardian: Occupy London: What went wrong?
I find ...Guardian: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/13/occupy-london-what-went-wrong" rel="nofollow">Occupy London: What went wrong?</a><br /><br />I find the level of vitriol in the comments (remember, this is the Guardian) reveals something, though I'm not sure what. I suspect at least it reveals the fact that defenders of Occupy have stopped defending and the noise is byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-68538971380638228322012-01-25T10:19:41.803+00:002012-01-25T10:19:41.803+00:00Would Obama's 2012 State of the Union have sou...Would Obama's <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/25/state-of-the-union-obama-fairer" rel="nofollow">2012 State of the Union</a> have sounded anything like this without Occupy?<br /><br />Not that I have much confidence that he'll actually do very much about it (even if re-elected), but the conversation has shifted.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-39878939710569465882012-01-13T08:27:44.194+00:002012-01-13T08:27:44.194+00:00Hi folks. Sorry to be late to the party. Mat, than...Hi folks. Sorry to be late to the party. Mat, thanks for the series -- great work. My one nagging suspicion though, is that you have over-simplified the idea of "justice". In The Ways of Judgment, O'Donovan draws important distinctions between justice as judgment and justice as natural right, or between attributive justice and redistributive justice. I think the burden of O'AndrewEhttp://andrewerrington.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-1743029005423645322012-01-06T06:37:50.283+00:002012-01-06T06:37:50.283+00:00Guardian: Archbishop Tutu's take on Occupy.Guardian: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/16/desmond-tutu-occupy-movement-trinity-church" rel="nofollow">Archbishop Tutu's take on Occupy</a>.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-21975380096413325212012-01-04T18:29:17.156+00:002012-01-04T18:29:17.156+00:00AlterNet: What motivates the Occupy movement? Grap...AlterNet: <a href="http://www.alternet.org/occupywallst/152811/the_shocking%2C_graphic_data_that_shows_exactly_what_motivates_the_occupy_movement_/?page=entire" rel="nofollow">What motivates the Occupy movement?</a> Graphs and stats of US inequality.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-82709893742117799922011-12-07T20:15:19.292+00:002011-12-07T20:15:19.292+00:00Geoffrey - I really appreciate your comment. And I...Geoffrey - I really appreciate your comment. And I agree with you. I certainly didn't intend to suggest that Christians have specific duties to uphold or fall in line behind the state per se. <br /><br />In fact, I think Christians in the US should align themselves with the Occupy Movement - precisely because it echoes God's judgment on the systems of human judgment (government) and Mathesonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15309831987958617937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-44267012029817670142011-12-07T14:00:04.066+00:002011-12-07T14:00:04.066+00:00I guess I was with this whole series right up unti...I guess I was with this whole series right up until the end. The idea that we Christians have specific political duties, particularly in societies such as mine (the United States) where there just isn't any organized mainstream political movement that comes close to hewing any kind of Biblical injunction regarding justice. Withholding one's vote in such circumstances, it seems to me, isGeoffrey Kruse-Saffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242660591954094499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-75897306366019031802011-12-06T22:52:30.261+00:002011-12-06T22:52:30.261+00:00Reflecting on this series, I wonder whether a more...Reflecting on this series, I wonder whether a more thoughtful apologist for economic growth might not question your characterisation of growth as an alternative to justice. In its place, such an interlocutor might argue that growth is <i>necessary</i> for justice, or at least that growth tends towards greater flourishing for all ("a rising tide lifts all boats") and so a greater chance byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.com