tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post6342149789643784475..comments2023-11-03T11:37:04.473+00:00Comments on nothing new under the sun: From the mouths of babes: dangerous addictionsbyron smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-43116612341035561232013-06-16T14:58:57.342+01:002013-06-16T14:58:57.342+01:00Upworthy: The video that Coca Cola and McDonalds h...Upworthy: <a href="http://www.upworthy.com/watch-the-video-that-coca-cola-and-mcdonalds-hope-you-never-see?c=tkp1" rel="nofollow">The video that Coca Cola and McDonalds hope you'll never see</a>.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-47445552459249034462012-05-30T13:06:22.640+01:002012-05-30T13:06:22.640+01:00Mark Hadley: How Consumerism Eats Our Kids. Good a...Mark Hadley: <a href="http://eternity.biz/news/how_consumerism_eats_kids/1110141839/" rel="nofollow">How Consumerism Eats Our Kids</a>. Good article.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-33385255367713481232012-05-02T10:47:06.701+01:002012-05-02T10:47:06.701+01:00A nice graphic highlighting the manipulative roots...<a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=426496764044979&set=a.206138056080852.56660.205876559440335" rel="nofollow">A nice graphic</a> highlighting the manipulative roots of modern advertising.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-78245645782739240172011-10-29T19:55:53.808+01:002011-10-29T19:55:53.808+01:00Monbiot: Advertising is an addictive poison.Monbiot: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/24/advertising-poison-hooked" rel="nofollow">Advertising is an addictive poison</a>.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-39586903533855198382011-09-19T10:30:15.347+01:002011-09-19T10:30:15.347+01:00Charlie Brooker: When even Weetabix has turned evi...Charlie Brooker: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/sep/18/weetabix-brand-ambassadors" rel="nofollow">When even Weetabix has turned evil, you know the world is in a sorry state</a>. Children as brand ambassadors.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-30848365319065375202010-06-17T14:51:16.303+01:002010-06-17T14:51:16.303+01:00I don't have to buy x
Terry - that's a dan...<i>I don't <b>have</b> to buy x</i><br />Terry - that's a dangerous idea. Better watch out or you might ruin the economy. ;-)byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-47755789222335917442010-06-14T12:16:34.687+01:002010-06-14T12:16:34.687+01:00Not at all, Byron. In fact, I don't think anyb...Not at all, Byron. In fact, I don't think anybody at all actually <i>intends</i> this kind of thing - though I wonder if increased sales of any given author can be shown to correlate to the influence of a blogging series!<br /><br />That said, there comes a point when I must accept that I'm responsible for my own actions: I don't <i>have</i> to buy <i>x</i>.Terry Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01641805384260706563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-46494416015125473362010-06-14T11:55:59.139+01:002010-06-14T11:55:59.139+01:00*I see you point = I see your point*I see <b>you</b> point = I see <b>your</b> pointbyron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-24850972407310222472010-06-14T10:45:28.684+01:002010-06-14T10:45:28.684+01:00Ah yes, I see you point now: under the guise of pe...Ah yes, I see you point now: <i>under the guise of persuasion, advertising slips in very easily</i>. Indeed. I hope that I haven't contributed to making you feel that you needed to find your fruitfulness in spending more money. And I hope <a href="http://nothing-new-under-the-sun.blogspot.com/2010/06/spend-less-earn-less-work-less.html" rel="nofollow">my latest post</a> works somewhat in the byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-82162642806675098242010-06-14T10:10:44.945+01:002010-06-14T10:10:44.945+01:00Oh, I see the difference, and I don't disagree...Oh, I see the difference, and I don't disagree with you. I just think that under the guise of persuasion, advertising slips in very easily. I say again that after reading many blog posts, very often I feel pressurised to read such a such a theologian or philosopher, <i>otherwise my academic endeavours won't be as others expect and my life won't be a fruitful</i>. At this point, surelyTerry Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01641805384260706563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-36153841847800078832010-06-12T19:22:44.274+01:002010-06-12T19:22:44.274+01:00Terry - I have tried to distinguish persuasion (a ...Terry - I have tried to distinguish persuasion (a broader category, which is neutral) from advertising (a subset of persuasion, and one that is frequently problematic). I have no problem with theologians, bloggers or anyone else trying to persuade people using arguments (at least in principle - there are, of course, bad arguments and bad ends towards which those arguments can be used). And so, byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-39067561811570505832010-06-12T17:50:04.452+01:002010-06-12T17:50:04.452+01:00Byron, you wrote, Where advertising is potentially...Byron, you wrote, <i>Where advertising is potentially pernicious is in persuading us to change our perceptions of what is necessary for a good and prosperous life from things outside the financial economy to things within it.</i><br /><br />But this is where I see a danger: You can only be a <i>good</i> theologian, a <i>'prosperous'</i> theologian if you engage with those other thinkers Terry Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01641805384260706563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-92207134335076429382010-06-12T03:41:05.037+01:002010-06-12T03:41:05.037+01:00Bringing in my comment from FB:
My 3 year old is a...Bringing in my comment from FB:<br />My 3 year old is an advertiser's dream - he loves any licensed character and pesters for licensed products. My 5 year old isn't like this. However, what is interesting is my 3 year old is the one with more EQ I think - so I wonder for him, the bombardment with licensed characters makes them feel familiar and even familial - and thus to be preferred to Meganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05400747412761753914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-42655219742863188872010-06-11T17:59:27.331+01:002010-06-11T17:59:27.331+01:00Yes, that's true. Though I wouldn't call i...Yes, that's true. Though I wouldn't call it advertising, I would call it <i>persuasion</i>, and I think it is a good thing. Advertising is a specific form of persuasion that aims to persuade us to behave in a particular way, specifically, to spend our money on things we were not previously going to buy. While some blog posts may take this form of persuasion, not all of it does. Where byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-78731423356378104842010-06-11T17:47:10.879+01:002010-06-11T17:47:10.879+01:00I understand your points, Byron. All very interest...I understand your points, Byron. All very interesting! Writing the paper on collecting, I realised just how much of a consumerist I actually am, and I find that worrying.<br /><br />But your comment has made me think about how subtle advertising can be. I've been following a few blogs for quite a few years, and I find it interesting how I've been influenced by some of these blogs, or by Terry Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01641805384260706563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-74973261701689121772010-06-11T13:30:03.921+01:002010-06-11T13:30:03.921+01:00Terry - Thanks for joining the discussion and for ...Terry - Thanks for joining the discussion and for making a substantial contribution in your first comment. Although I'm going to disagree with some of your points, I'm grateful for your thoughts. Keep them coming!<br /><br /><i>I'm sure that we're right and godly to tsk-tsk at how much greed isn't good for us, but I'm also sure that we recognise that theologians and byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-25549222947145464082010-06-11T13:30:00.023+01:002010-06-11T13:30:00.023+01:00Doug - Indeed, I had to read them twice when I fir...Doug - Indeed, I had to read them twice when I first came across them, and then had to read them aloud to a collection of parents with whom I was sitting at the time (don't worry, my reading in this context was not anti-social). They agreed that the stats were probably true from their experience. Scary indeed.<br /><br />Christopher - The image is of a shopfront window of a major department byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-44280296914972065322010-06-09T08:55:30.572+01:002010-06-09T08:55:30.572+01:00As I'm a child of the 80s, I still buy GI Joe ...As I'm a child of the 80s, I still buy GI Joe figures and Transformers on occasion for displaying on my bookshelves next to my theology books. In an attempt to understand why I do what I do, I wrote an essay on what drives an adult to collect anything at all - in my case, toys.<br /><br />I'm sure that we're right and godly to tsk-tsk at how much greed isn't good for us, but I'Terry Wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01641805384260706563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-66489096800950557322010-06-09T08:08:10.379+01:002010-06-09T08:08:10.379+01:00We live sans tv, though we can watch dvds on our c...We live sans tv, though we can watch dvds on our computer. I was so glad that my son's toddler hood was spent without a telly and tv advertising, he was completely oblivious to all of that. He now thinks tv is inferior to dvds because he can't choose what to watch, he has to just take what the scheduling dishes out (when he stays at grandparents etc...). He also realises that much of the Irithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-86324059006055352812010-06-09T04:00:09.652+01:002010-06-09T04:00:09.652+01:00That's a nice tank you have.
I also agree wit...That's a nice tank you have. <br />I also agree with your/Hamilton's point.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02031551405442888131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-52439176655764668932010-06-08T23:20:04.631+01:002010-06-08T23:20:04.631+01:00Amen Byron.Amen Byron.Jason Goroncyhttp://cruciality.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-86335157423903405432010-06-08T21:22:56.927+01:002010-06-08T21:22:56.927+01:00Those stats are truly terrifying. One of the thing...Those stats are truly terrifying. One of the things we notice not having a telly is that we buy the same things in the supermarket week after week... its only when we see an ad break that we realise that there are all these new products. <br /><br />Hannah's current phrase of the month is "see... that [mad development in technology] is just proof that we [UK etc] should stop where we areDoug Forbesnoreply@blogger.com