tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post817362285213386777..comments2023-11-03T11:37:04.473+00:00Comments on nothing new under the sun: Why I'm not going to heavenbyron smithhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-31140387986835382542017-06-29T18:51:28.050+01:002017-06-29T18:51:28.050+01:00Thank you.Thank you.timuihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07720989625625507944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-60852043266040722572015-07-13T11:39:49.753+01:002015-07-13T11:39:49.753+01:00John Stackhouse Jr. making essentially the same ar...<a href="http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2015/07/13/4272573.htm" rel="nofollow">John Stackhouse Jr.</a> making essentially the same argument, though he takes it in slightly different directions at the end.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-90079712658802823272012-07-25T16:11:42.751+01:002012-07-25T16:11:42.751+01:00Byron, 'that' was worth reading. Mark Cham...Byron, 'that' was worth reading. Mark Chambers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-78102873167351811662011-10-12T18:14:06.549+01:002011-10-12T18:14:06.549+01:00Planetwise by Dave Bookless has a great and very a...<i>Planetwise</i> by Dave Bookless has a great and very accessible discussion of these ideas where he explores a number of the key passages in chapter five (pp. 74-87). Highly recommended.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-9122838346437021972011-05-17T17:39:22.761+01:002011-05-17T17:39:22.761+01:00Pangea: Farewell to rapture.Pangea: <a href="http://www.thepangeablog.com/2011/05/16/the-rapture-is-coming-this-saturday-may-21-2011/" rel="nofollow">Farewell to rapture</a>.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-35194482137352757402011-03-02T18:31:24.358+00:002011-03-02T18:31:24.358+00:00PS Whether all, some or none of the book of Revela...PS Whether all, some or none of the book of Revelation belongs in the category of "prophecies about the future/end of time" is not immediately obvious.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-82150231238825611852011-03-02T18:30:28.914+00:002011-03-02T18:30:28.914+00:00Matheson Russell. Speaking of surnames, any more h...Matheson Russell. Speaking of surnames, any more hints? (There were quite a few Andrews at Barneys when I was there!)<br /><br />And yes, I don't think that there was a literal historic edenic golden age in which nothing died. As you say, "death" is more than simply a biological concept. Theologically, there is much more to say about it. Moltmann speaks of death becoming deadly byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-35202200298076588032011-03-02T06:59:42.201+00:002011-03-02T06:59:42.201+00:00Yes I am someone who undoubtedly knows you, though...Yes I am someone who undoubtedly knows you, though whether you remember me is another matter. I was at Barneys for at least some of the time you were and attended your theodicies course at New College that you presented with Matheson (can't even remember his surname, hopeless memory). If only I could dig up the notes again wherever they are, they may have been useful for a couple of vexed Andrewhttp://ajhaigh.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-43588721428723581462011-02-26T23:58:48.630+00:002011-02-26T23:58:48.630+00:00:-)
Do you know where it is?:-)<br /><br />Do you know where it is?byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-12701888408811318082011-02-26T23:22:01.514+00:002011-02-26T23:22:01.514+00:00Why I'm not going to heaven? That first photo ...Why I'm not going to heaven? That first photo said it all. :)Arthurhttp://arthurandtamie.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-54374121506674891762011-02-26T13:02:38.704+00:002011-02-26T13:02:38.704+00:00Hi Andrew (are you one of the many Andrews that I ...Hi Andrew (are you one of the many Andrews that I know personally?) and good questions.<br /><br />I've also pondered the second law of thermodynamics thing and confess I don't know what to think about it. I think that since it is creation itself that is groaning and that (presumably) creation includes not just this planet that we call home, but the whole universe, then the renewal of allbyron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-28741219596758182402011-02-26T04:17:07.432+00:002011-02-26T04:17:07.432+00:00Thanks Byron, this is the sort of "everything...Thanks Byron, this is the sort of "everything you know is wrong" stuff that would have shocked me in early high school with my primitive pie-in-the-sky-when-you-die Sunday School theological education - but from all I've learned in the intervening years I would say spot on, you've nailed it better than most. I did read your earlier series, but was compelled to comment on the Andrewhttp://ajhaigh.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-71316048572242229122011-02-24T00:45:03.913+00:002011-02-24T00:45:03.913+00:00thanks Byron. agreed.thanks Byron. agreed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-30438790522242933282011-02-22T20:36:49.017+00:002011-02-22T20:36:49.017+00:00Been wanting/meaning to write something like this,...Been wanting/meaning to write something like this, and you beat me to it in a better way than I could have done it. Bravo sir.Brad Easthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09342341127122254107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-58940162865386123452011-02-22T17:49:19.741+00:002011-02-22T17:49:19.741+00:00Sam - no, I hadn't. Thanks!
Anon - Thanks for...Sam - no, I hadn't. Thanks!<br /><br />Anon - Thanks for your thoughts. Did you read this post, or were you just apologising for not having read the rest of my blog?<br /><br />Geoff - Yes, an important question.<br /><br />Perhaps the problem with the line of thought you raise can be illustrated with some parallels:<br />• "No need to look after my body since God will raise it."<brbyron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-89193280259315390472011-02-22T01:59:30.079+00:002011-02-22T01:59:30.079+00:00How does a proper view of the resurrection enforce...How does a proper view of the resurrection enforce care for the environment? I remember when reading Suprised by Hope that part of Wright's hope is that a good theology of resurrection will ensure people do not have a "God will destroy this place, so let's get on with extracting all the oil we can because it doesn't matter in the end" view of the planet. <br /><br />But doesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-12258206432461470412011-02-21T17:56:05.302+00:002011-02-21T17:56:05.302+00:00sorry - haven't read previous posts.
My under...sorry - haven't read previous posts.<br /><br />My understanding of salvation differs a bit to standard Christianity.<br /><br />On this subject though I think it is key to remember to love God and love your neighbour.... implied as well to love his creation.<br /><br />All that we do alive on earth can be summecd up by that.<br /><br />:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-83981304454320033992011-02-21T14:44:29.735+00:002011-02-21T14:44:29.735+00:00Amen. I look forward to not seeing you there!Amen. I look forward to not seeing you there!Jeremyhttp://www.makewealthhistory.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-13963414098823071962011-02-21T13:57:29.374+00:002011-02-21T13:57:29.374+00:00good sound stuff Byron - are you familiar with thi...good sound stuff Byron - are you familiar with this? http://www.youclubvideo.com/audio/120231/tom-jones-ain-39-t-no-graveSam Charles Nortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04088870675715850624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-7508897475517909352011-02-21T10:27:35.445+00:002011-02-21T10:27:35.445+00:00Yes, vindicates and transforms (perfects if you li...Yes, vindicates and transforms (perfects if you like, though not through bringing any natural possibilities to pass anymore than resurrection is a natural possibility for a corpse).<br /><br />And yes, I've read that article and it was interesting, though I'm unconvinced.byron smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17938334606675769903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-25961240519258381242011-02-21T10:14:27.419+00:002011-02-21T10:14:27.419+00:00helpful reminder byron - although i think rather t...helpful reminder byron - although i think rather than vindicating nature, it is more accurate to say that grace perfects nature.<br /><br />as regards romans 8, you might be interested in Michaels' argument that creation is not on view until v.22.<br /><br />Ramsey Michaels, John ‘The Redemption of our Body : the Riddle of Romans 8:19-22’ in Romans and the People of God : Essays in Honor of bruce passhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02002012221677614658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28189019.post-22434475415560001112011-02-21T02:00:51.800+00:002011-02-21T02:00:51.800+00:00I enjoyed reading this Byron and liked what you sa...I enjoyed reading this Byron and liked what you said about it being the origin and not the goal of our salvation!<br /><br />There is another point to consider also, in that much of our energies are in trying to keep people out of hell...and once we get them saved we have done our duty ...<i>whoooo wipes brow... </i> a subject which I believe the Annihilationist position is the more Biblical Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com